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The Question Built to Trap Her
“But prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:21, Douay-Rheims
The case
In fourteen thirty-one, a bishop working for the English put a nineteen-year-old girl on trial. And he asked her a question built to trap her. The question was: do you know if you're in God's grace? If she said yes, that's presumption. Nobody can be sure of that on his own. They'd call her a heretic. If she said no, she would be admitting her voices never came from God. Either answer convicted her.
The evidence
Every quotation below is printed in the words of the edition named under it. Nothing is paraphrased.
“If I am not, may God place me there; if I am, may God so keep me. I should be the saddest in all the world if I knew that I were not in the grace of God.”Joan's answer, 24 February 1431, in the trial record (T. Douglas Murray's translation, 1902, public domain) — read it at the source
What’s established, and what isn’t
What the sources support, claim by claim — each one checked against the sources listed at the foot of this page:
- Trial of condemnation 1431, presided over by Bishop Pierre Cauchon
- Joan about nineteen at the trial
- On 24 Feb 1431 she was asked whether she knew herself to be in God's grace
- Either answer convicted her: yes was presumption, no was an admission that her voices were not from God
- She could not read and had no counsel
- Her answer is quoted from a public-domain translation of the trial record
- A churchman present objected that it was not a suitable question for such a girl, and was told to keep silent (Jean Lefevre, examined 9 May 1452)
- Executed 30 May 1431
- Nullification trial 1456 overturned the verdict; canonized 1920
- CCC 2005 quotes her answer
Where the record stops short:
- The words of Joan's answer come from the record of the trial of condemnation, in a public-domain translation. A trial record is a notary's account of what was said, not a recording.
- The churchman who objected to the question is Jean Lefevre, Bishop of Demetriade, who was there and said so under examination on 9 May 1452, twenty-one years later. Popular accounts say the judges were stunned or stupefied; we could not find that in the record, so this file does not say it.
For your men’s group
- The question was built so that either answer convicted her. When have you been asked a question like that, and what did you do?
- Her answer neither claimed certainty nor denied hope. Why is that harder to say than either one alone?
- A girl of about nineteen who could not read faced a room of churchmen alone. What does that ask of men who can read, and who are not alone?
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Every source
- Trial question and answer, 24 February 1431, in a public-domain translation ('If I am not, may God place me there; if I am, may God so keep me'); 'she could neither read nor write'; Jean Lefevre's 1452 testimony and Cauchon's 'It will be better for you if you keep silent'
- Cauchon presided; born probably 6 January 1412; executed 30 May 1431 at Rouen; handed to the secular arm; rehabilitation trial; canonised 1920
- CCC 2005 cites St Joan of Arc's reply to a question posed as a trap (Catechism concordance, vatican.va)
- Delaroche 1824, Musee des Beaux-Arts de Rouen; museum notes the cardinal never visited her in prison; Beaufort substituted for Cauchon
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